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    On another forum I have begun a daily blog and one of the features I do is a steroid profile that includes my experience with the anabolic steroid of choice after treating 1000 + users and receiving the anecdote from many 1000's more. I have received a lot of emails regarding Primobolan lately and so I thought it was time to iron out some of the misconceptions about this anabolic steroid, but also to provide a use case where Primobolan may be of particular advantage. I have posted this blog post for the BS readers also.

    Primobolan. Champagne or Sham?

    What is it?

    Primobolan is the brand name for an anabolic steroid called methenolone. It is commonly available in two esters: methenolone enanthate and methenolone acetate. Methenolone enanthate is available as an injectable solution and most commonly arrives in a 100 mg/ml oily preparation. Primobolan can be mixed at greater strengths, but there is a reason only 100 mg/ml is used and that is because the solution tends to be too coarse if prepared any stronger—increasing the risk of corking and site reaction. Not only that, but the raw ingredients for Primobolan are bul**** expensive—only about 10-20 times more expensive than testosterone raws. This is one of the reasons why it is commonly accepted that Primobolan is often faked. I hate to reinforce this rumour, but I can tell you first hand it is quite true. Methenolone acetate is available in an injectable solution or as an oral. Oral Primobolan tends to come in 10 mg tablets and the solution as 50 mg/ml or 100 mg/ml.

    Wherever there is scarcity, there is allure.

    Much like rHGH, Primobolan has received its premium title because of its scarcity and price tag. You know those artworks that are splatters of paint that a kindergarten kid could have created—only they sell for 37.5 million USD? Well, sales psychology is no different in the performance enhancement world. An item is worth what people are willing to pay for it. In a nutshell, this is Primobolan in the world of anabolic steroids. However, there is a caveat I will get to at the end of this blog post that makes Primobolan particularly valuable for some.

    Is there anything different about Primobolan compared to other anabolic steroids?

    Like all AAS, they are derivatives of testosterone. Although many AAS look similar to testosterone or DHT from a chemical standpoint, we know clinically that these seemingly “minor” differences in chemistry can exhibit significant differences in clinical effects. Also, like all AAS, not enough human research has been conducted to accurately determine the differences in clinical effects from one AAS to another. We are essentially left to an n = 1 experiment to find out what is going on. With that said, Primobolan shows an anabolic : androgenic ratio in favour of its anabolic potential (in rats at least. Once again, no human data so take this with a pinch of salt). What this means is that comparatively to testosterone, for every mg of Primobolan you administer, you will have a greater anabolic effect, with a lesser androgenic effect. Androgens are responsible for the “man sides” which is why a low dose of Primobolan is regarded as a good choice for a female. I would agree it is. Perhaps in the neighbourhood of 50-100 mg weekly for a female. Again, I do not like to make blanket statements of what will be a highly individualised dose. Some women want to look big, proper big—so you girls may need a little more than that! Women should also be aware that a low androgenic rating does not mean a “no” androgenic rating and so if you take enough Primobolan, your clitoris may resemble more of a penis—and no, that was not one of my awesome jokes. I am dead serious ladies. Proceed with caution. The danger is in the dose.

    Comparatively to many other AAS, Primobolan also exhibits a favourable ratio. The comparative of Primobolan to testosterone is below:

    Testosterone Cyp, Enanthate, Prop, Suspension, and Sustanon
    Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100


    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 88:44-57

    But Primobolan is not the only AAS with a contextually favourable ratio, so what else makes it unique? Well, Primbolan seems to be of low toxicity. When we couple the allure of the price tag, the scarcity, the favourable anabolic : androgenic ratio, the low toxicity and the fact that Primobolan was reportedly one of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s favourite contest preparation drugs—then we have the perceived perception of Primobolan being the champagne of steroids. From an evidence bases point of view however, Primobolan is hardly special.

    So there is nothing special about Primobolan at all? A waste of money?

    Here’s the kicker, or caveat I was referring to previously. Now, because Primobolan is relatively of low toxicity and does not exhibit a high activity of androgens per given mg, this gives reason to a high dosing schedule of Primobolan being potentially advantageous. One of the main reasons AAS users are stopped from using high dose stacks is because of the side effects that set in. The higher the dose, the higher the chance of side effects and toxicity. With Primobolan, this drug is reportedly “side-effect free” at doses all the way up to 1000 mg weekly and beyond. As a coach myself who has treated 1000 + users, for those who have access to legitimate Primobolan and cost ($) is not an issue, I have seen these high doses of Primobolan be very effective; particularly when preparing for a competition. No aromatisation, low risk of side effects and at 1000 mg weekly—quite solid anabolic potential. The other consideration is as I said previously:

    Although all AAS look similar to testosterone or DHT from a chemical standpoint, we know clinically that these seemingly “minor” differences in chemistry can exhibit significant differences in clinical effects.
    This above statement is perhaps the “magic” some Primobolan users are referring to. For the layman, what this statement means is that although the sciency stuff may suggest that each anabolic steroid looks quite similar to the next, in the real world the actual results a human can experience from one anabolic steroid to the next, can be large. From someone who is perhaps the biggest sceptic out there in this space, I am always open to the n = 1, especially in the absence of evidence. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence either and so if some users swear by their high dose Primobolan cycles, then I think it is fair to believe them. If you have had an experience with Primobolan, please share it below in the comments section.

    Until next time, David.
    Last edited by austeroids; 13-01-2019, 10:59 AM.
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  • #2
    Love primobolan , my favorite compound. I use it year round. On cruise, 150mg test, 400mg primo works wonders for all round health. On blast, I use test, mast,eq,deca and primo dose up to 6-700mg. Awesome stuff!! Thanks for the article.


    • #3
      So the chances of 200mg per mil primo are very unlikely?


      • austeroids
        austeroids commented
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        Yes. Unlikely.

      • Swolewolf
        Swolewolf commented
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        Well that’s just sad lol

      • EVLCorp
        EVLCorp commented
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        Unless its us doing it.

        In which case we advise of the cork beforehand.
        But due to the crappy sales at the relevant price we went back to 100mg.

    • #4
      Hands the best steroid I've ever used IMHO. No sides even at 1 gram, big round fullness even in hard deficits, best steroid for mental effects u feel so good all the time full of energy, sleep awesome & can run for 20+ weeks no problems. If only the $$ wasn't so bad + having to pin 3ml every other day, if u don't run it high mg's it does very little at least 700

      helix & vita are both on. On my next run I might go pharma & see


      • #5
        Totally agree! Liquid gold in my opinion 600 -1000 mg per week is awesome.Throw in a bit of Anavar on top and the look is amazing


        • #6
          800mg a week is my sweet spot and without a doubt my most preferred steroid. You feel and look great on it.


          • #7
            100% my favourite compound, mental effects are amazing and physical looks is awesome too! Careful of lipids, they can go a bit out of hand with regards to primo!


            • #8
              Which sponsor is everyone getting their primo from? im keen to start on some


              • #9
                Everyone has a preferred source,mine is aus pharma gear


                • #10
                  Helix anabolics primo probably only legit primo out there and I’ve tried them all. Along with DHB it’s my favourite to run, all benefits and no sides


                  • #11
                    Originally posted by JWeston View Post
                    Helix anabolics primo probably only legit primo out there and I’ve tried them all. Along with DHB it’s my favourite to run, all benefits and no sides
                    So alpha pharma isn’t legit primo in your opinion?


                    • #12
                      Here comes the sales pitch to all who are asking. We stock Primobolan...
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